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« on: July 08, 2011, 03:02:05 AM » |
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Are these clips still viable? Do they hold too little darts for usage?
Sorry for the kind of newb question, I don't play HvZ.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2011, 03:30:52 AM » |
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There probably good for, well I don't know, say running across a long passage way but there not for holdout missions.
EDIT: I don't play HvZ either so im just guessing.
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 04:42:25 AM » |
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I think for a pistolish weapon (recon... pistoled raider) they are pretty handy. However, for a primary, the 6 round clip should be used as a last ditch, oh crap no more rounds, solution. For daytime, a 6 round clip is much easier to hide in a backpack compared to say a raider drum.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 07:07:23 AM » |
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as dragon posted earlier i use it if i dont have enough time to reload my drums, i have many of them as a last attempt before i run and hide. i personally prefer anything but the CS blasters because of there shitty airseals... in other words, YES for a less expensive clip with an average to low amount of firepower. it works well for close quarters and it is very inconspicuous compared to a 7-10 inch drum...
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 09:50:18 AM » |
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Are these clips still viable? Do they hold too little darts for usage? The 6-round magazines are useful as backups for those times when re-loading an 18-round drum, 18-round magazine, or 35-round drum are not possible. I usually carry one of these (in the Recon shoulder stock attached to my Alpha Trooper) as a backup. 6-round magazines are generally not great. They run out too quickly, and are useless in situations where groups of zombies are charging. This is why I think some people take the top and bottom parts of 2x 6-round magazines and combine them to form 1x 12-round magazine, otherwise known as "superclip". 12 rounds is a good compromise between compactness of the magazine and higher capacity. I wish Nerf had used 12-round mags from the start, but I don't think they thought that far in advance with the original CS series blasters.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 10:23:58 AM » |
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This is why I think some people take the top and bottom parts of 2x 6-round magazines and combine them to form 1x 12-round magazine, otherwise known as "superclip". 12 rounds is a good compromise between compactness of the magazine and higher capacity. I wish Nerf had used 12-round mags from the start, but I don't think they thought that far in advance with the original CS series blasters.
true true. Superclips are the best of both worlds IMO. Just enough firepower to take out ~10 zombies, yet small enough to fit in an M16 pouch (unlike the drums and 18 round clips). And I"ll say it now, while it helps to cut the clips square with a band saw or something of the like, one can use wirecutters to cut the pastic and make superclips. I've made two of said superclips before and they are holding quite nicely. Oh and never pry apart the clip if it's glued, especially the top part of the clip.
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 02:23:10 PM » |
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Can you direct me to a tutorial on how to do that? Is this how? : http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-mod-a-CS-6-Nerf-Longshot/step2/Nerf-Clip-Mod/If it is, I'm looking for something more indepth. Also wouldn't the Nerf Flip clip or homemade duct tape flip clips work fine?
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2011, 03:41:05 PM » |
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This person created a nice demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH4bBdudD2Y It's a bit long but you get to see most of the process.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2011, 04:27:12 PM » |
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Oh, I remember when blasters didn't have slam fire, recons were raiders, and six clips were all we had. http://youtu.be/0HB99VnJeQs?t=44sOn topic, I still think they can be viable in a game of HvZ. I personally can't see myself using them, but I'm sure there are people out there who can, and will. Making them into superclips is the only way I'd use them, though.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2011, 05:25:15 PM » |
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I've found that 6 clips are more useful in the early section of the "one-day" style games we mostly play in britain. I'll use my 18s once a larger number of zombies are inbound, but the limited capacity of the 6 means, i use my shots more efficiently when precision is a better tool then spraying.
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2011, 05:36:51 PM » |
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You only get so much precision with nerf though. One odd dart and you are dead.
As for a tutorial, there's not much too it. I can show a picture of where to cut if that helps?
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2011, 06:42:46 PM » |
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You only get so much precision with nerf though. One odd dart and you are dead.
As for a tutorial, there's not much too it. I can show a picture of where to cut if that helps?
Yes please, that would be great.
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 10:48:42 PM » |
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Here's Captain SLug's version, which looks really clean: http://nerfhaven.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8071For my own personal step by step. First, unscrew the clip. Then carefully remove the spring, and if possible the follower. For the two clips, you need to cut at the line's indicated. For the bottom half, cut where line 1 is. For the top half, cut where line 2 is.  Essentially for the line 1 cut, you want to cut to the point where the clip stops bulging out. To know if you made the cut right, slide your follower in and out and make sure it doesnt get caught on anything. For the line 2 cut, cut right above the trapezoidal indentation. again test with a follower to ensure smoothness. To attach the springs together, I used a 6-32 x 3/8" screw, #10 washers on both sides, and a Matching Nylon Lock nut to fit the screw. Not my pic. Example of how to attach the springs though  Now the best way to glue it all together imo is to have the follower right in the middle of the superclip. as you glue together the clips, slide the follower up and down to test for smoothness. You'll find out that they have a lot of tolerance for working. Thats the best advice I can give really.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2011, 01:39:10 AM » |
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I'm a fan of the 6 clip since it's far easier to count to six than eighteen. This mental count acts as a stop from going full mambo and unloading.
Also when using them, since they are fairly easy to come across and cheap, I have no worries when emptying a clip, dropping it to the ground while loading another without picking up the discarded one right away.
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2011, 07:37:08 PM » |
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That's precisely what I was getting at. Precision might be the wrong word...perhaps deliberation is a better one. It helps me make my shots cont a whole lot more.
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